Comments on: Steelers complete trifecta http://steelerstoday.com/?p=5782 Wed, 08 Sep 2010 13:21:08 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0 By: tony http://steelerstoday.com/?p=5782&cpage=1#comment-6831 tony Mon, 14 Dec 2009 20:10:16 +0000 http://steelerstoday.com/?p=5782#comment-6831 eric, I agree. I'm not for firing him so soon but he needsto be held accountable. For what it's worth for those Bill Cowher haters: I could give cowher a few disappointing seasons because he proved over and over again his worth. Tomlin has yet to do that yet. Look at the Colts this season. Are we to say Dungy was replaced with someone just as good as he was? Not so quick, right? Tomlin is on the "warm" seat this offseason. Not quite the hot seat yet. But the temp is beginning to rise. Can he cool it down a bit? We'll see. eric,

I agree. I’m not for firing him so soon but he needsto be held accountable. For what it’s worth for those Bill Cowher haters:

I could give cowher a few disappointing seasons because he proved over and over again his worth. Tomlin has yet to do that yet. Look at the Colts this season. Are we to say Dungy was replaced with someone just as good as he was? Not so quick, right?

Tomlin is on the “warm” seat this offseason. Not quite the hot seat yet. But the temp is beginning to rise. Can he cool it down a bit? We’ll see.

]]> By: eric smith http://steelerstoday.com/?p=5782&cpage=1#comment-6830 eric smith Mon, 14 Dec 2009 13:50:25 +0000 http://steelerstoday.com/?p=5782#comment-6830 OOps. sent that last post without finishing. Anyway, re Tomlinson, to answer Tony's question: no, I do not think he can be considered one of the top coaches at this point. The special teams breakdowns, and the inability to finish doomed the Steelers this year. I really think a more experienced coach would've spotted these deadly weaknesses sooner, and made corrections.He has a chance to rebound next year, but was unable to right the ship in time to save this year. I know he must really feel embarrassed. Whether or not he can rise to higher level we will find out. Though it may take 2 or three yrs. This was a major collapse on several fronts and will not easily be repaired, I fear. OOps. sent that last post without finishing. Anyway, re Tomlinson, to answer Tony’s question: no, I do not think he can be considered one of the top coaches at this point. The special teams breakdowns, and the inability to finish doomed the Steelers this year. I really think a more experienced coach would’ve spotted these deadly weaknesses sooner, and made corrections.He has a chance to rebound next year, but was unable to right the ship in time to save this year. I know he must really feel embarrassed. Whether or not he can rise to higher level we will find out. Though it may take 2 or three yrs. This was a major collapse on several fronts and will not easily be repaired, I fear.

]]> By: eric smith http://steelerstoday.com/?p=5782&cpage=1#comment-6829 eric smith Mon, 14 Dec 2009 13:38:34 +0000 http://steelerstoday.com/?p=5782#comment-6829 I agree with Benny: this season is more disappointing than 2006, which began with Ben's cycle crash, apendectomy, etc. We finished strong that year; we did not collapse! Re Tony's questioning MT The hiring of Tomlinson is a kind of sensitive area. Last year's SB victory was made largely with players selected and moulded by Cowher. This year's collapse is really unprecedented in NFL history and is very disturbing to die hard Steeler fans. I agree with Benny: this season is more disappointing than 2006, which began with Ben’s cycle crash, apendectomy, etc. We finished strong that year; we did not collapse!
Re Tony’s questioning MT

The hiring of Tomlinson is a kind of sensitive area. Last year’s SB victory was made largely with players selected and moulded by Cowher. This year’s collapse is really unprecedented in NFL history and is very disturbing to die hard Steeler fans.

]]> By: John#21 http://steelerstoday.com/?p=5782&cpage=1#comment-6827 John#21 Mon, 14 Dec 2009 01:00:57 +0000 http://steelerstoday.com/?p=5782#comment-6827 I would agree and say that this season is more disappointing only because we had the lessons of '06 there to make us wiser. There is an article in the PG that talks about this being the end of an era because the Steelers have so many older playes on Defense; a questionable O-Line and a lot of contract decisions to make. We may be facing a (insert dreaded word...) re-building for a few years. IMO it is the challenge of a successful franchise - to stay strong through the draft and intelligent, timely personnel moves (i.e. NE Pats and Richard Seymour. Ever notice how NE has seemed to have multiple 1st rnd picks the last few years?)When you are picking low, you have to be a shrewd judge of talent and be willing to make moves. Both areas that we will have to get better at quickly so that we do not become stuck in mediocrity in the NFL. We all have faith but it's time for us to see a real Steeler EFFORT throughout our proud organization! Starting now! I would agree and say that this season is more disappointing only because we had the lessons of ’06 there to make us wiser. There is an article in the PG that talks about this being the end of an era because the Steelers have so many older playes on Defense; a questionable O-Line and a lot of contract decisions to make. We may be facing a (insert dreaded word…) re-building for a few years. IMO it is the challenge of a successful franchise – to stay strong through the draft and intelligent, timely personnel moves (i.e. NE Pats and Richard Seymour. Ever notice how NE has seemed to have multiple 1st rnd picks the last few years?)When you are picking low, you have to be a shrewd judge of talent and be willing to make moves. Both areas that we will have to get better at quickly so that we do not become stuck in mediocrity in the NFL. We all have faith but it’s time for us to see a real Steeler EFFORT throughout our proud organization! Starting now!

]]> By: admin http://steelerstoday.com/?p=5782&cpage=1#comment-6825 admin Mon, 14 Dec 2009 00:16:44 +0000 http://steelerstoday.com/?p=5782#comment-6825 Benny, I don't know if I feel MORE disappointed that I did with the 2006 season, but this one has definitely been disappointing. Benny,
I don’t know if I feel MORE disappointed that I did with the 2006 season, but this one has definitely been disappointing.

]]> By: Benny http://steelerstoday.com/?p=5782&cpage=1#comment-6823 Benny Mon, 14 Dec 2009 00:06:52 +0000 http://steelerstoday.com/?p=5782#comment-6823 I don't want to pile on to what has already been said about the losses or Arians but I absolutely want to comment on Tomlin and his "promises". Now I don't recommend cutting players or firing coaches in the middle of the season but if you say you're going to do it then you have to follow through. I also don't understand how doing the same thing week after week anyone can expect to see different results, and I'm referring to the running game or the lack thereof. Another thing that was promised by Tomlin when he got hired was a commitment to the running game which has virtually been non-existent considering what we have done throughout this teams history. Does anyone else agree that this season is more disappointing than the 2006 season because we started off well this season and ended up nothing to show for it? I don’t want to pile on to what has already been said about the losses or Arians but I absolutely want to comment on Tomlin and his “promises”. Now I don’t recommend cutting players or firing coaches in the middle of the season but if you say you’re going to do it then you have to follow through. I also don’t understand how doing the same thing week after week anyone can expect to see different results, and I’m referring to the running game or the lack thereof. Another thing that was promised by Tomlin when he got hired was a commitment to the running game which has virtually been non-existent considering what we have done throughout this teams history.

Does anyone else agree that this season is more disappointing than the 2006 season because we started off well this season and ended up nothing to show for it?

]]> By: admin http://steelerstoday.com/?p=5782&cpage=1#comment-6818 admin Sat, 12 Dec 2009 19:33:37 +0000 http://steelerstoday.com/?p=5782#comment-6818 Eric, I can't say that I agree with you about Arizona getting the braintrust. However, I will be discussing the Steelers coaching quite a bit in the weeks to come. Eric,
I can’t say that I agree with you about Arizona getting the braintrust. However, I will be discussing the Steelers coaching quite a bit in the weeks to come.

]]> By: admin http://steelerstoday.com/?p=5782&cpage=1#comment-6817 admin Sat, 12 Dec 2009 19:31:38 +0000 http://steelerstoday.com/?p=5782#comment-6817 Tony, I can't exclusively focus on changes that the Steelers need to make. There are still games to be played. I have to cover them. However, I will be spending some time talking more about the coaches and future implications for the team. Tony,
I can’t exclusively focus on changes that the Steelers need to make. There are still games to be played. I have to cover them. However, I will be spending some time talking more about the coaches and future implications for the team.

]]> By: tony http://steelerstoday.com/?p=5782&cpage=1#comment-6816 tony Sat, 12 Dec 2009 18:29:50 +0000 http://steelerstoday.com/?p=5782#comment-6816 Donald, I propose that you dedicate the blog for the remainder of the season to mostly discuss what changes (either in players, coaches, or schemes) we need to make. Because I seriously can't see myself talking much about this ridiculus season anymore. Maybe I speak for others who read this blog too, I don't know. They can ring in on it for themselves. Again, I am not calling for Tomlin's head just yet. For one, I throughly enjoy the fact unlike many teams we don't change head coaches every time Mr. Rooney changes his socks. But I would like to pose this question and maybe you could write on it too. Can somebody make the case for Mike Tomlin as an elite head coach deserving of such a franchise? I will point to only one of many candid comments by him to show everyone what raises my question: When asked about the silly calls on the first 2 drives in the Cleveland game where Mendenhall was averaging over 4 yds/carry that we decide to pass on 3rd and 1 and pass on a 3rd and 3 when we were obviously imposing our will at the line of scrimage, Tomlin says, "Hindsight is 20/20" My thought is, "really, no one is seeing any better from the previous 12 games." I just watched a replay on nfl netwrk when pit played cle in wildcard game in 2002. For those unaware, our beloved Bruce Arians was the OC for the Browns that year. His play calling late in that game cost the Browns a win because he didn't understand the importance of the run game. Obviously he still doesn't. Cleveland passed for over 400yds and ran for under 30yds in that game. Looks good on offensive stat sheets but rarely puts up consistant wins unless everything is falling into place. I believe Cowher saw Arians worth in coaching WRs but obviously he wasn't hired away from the Browns to call plays anymore. Again, my question: Can anyone make the case for Tomlin being an elite head coach considering his coaching hires and his comments and his empty promises? Donald,

I propose that you dedicate the blog for the remainder of the season to mostly discuss what changes (either in players, coaches, or schemes) we need to make. Because I seriously can’t see myself talking much about this ridiculus season anymore. Maybe I speak for others who read this blog too, I don’t know. They can ring in on it for themselves.

Again, I am not calling for Tomlin’s head just yet. For one, I throughly enjoy the fact unlike many teams we don’t change head coaches every time Mr. Rooney changes his socks.

But I would like to pose this question and maybe you could write on it too. Can somebody make the case for Mike Tomlin as an elite head coach deserving of such a franchise? I will point to only one of many candid comments by him to show everyone what raises my question: When asked about the silly calls on the first 2 drives in the Cleveland game where Mendenhall was averaging over 4 yds/carry that we decide to pass on 3rd and 1 and pass on a 3rd and 3 when we were obviously imposing our will at the line of scrimage, Tomlin says, “Hindsight is 20/20″ My thought is, “really, no one is seeing any better from the previous 12 games.”

I just watched a replay on nfl netwrk when pit played cle in wildcard game in 2002. For those unaware, our beloved Bruce Arians was the OC for the Browns that year. His play calling late in that game cost the Browns a win because he didn’t understand the importance of the run game. Obviously he still doesn’t. Cleveland passed for over 400yds and ran for under 30yds in that game. Looks good on offensive stat sheets but rarely puts up consistant wins unless everything is falling into place.

I believe Cowher saw Arians worth in coaching WRs but obviously he wasn’t hired away from the Browns to call plays anymore.

Again, my question: Can anyone make the case for Tomlin being an elite head coach considering his coaching hires and his comments and his empty promises?

]]> By: John#21 http://steelerstoday.com/?p=5782&cpage=1#comment-6815 John#21 Sat, 12 Dec 2009 17:59:00 +0000 http://steelerstoday.com/?p=5782#comment-6815 Right on Eric! There has to be consequences for this season. In the NFL, that means coaches' heads roll. Please start with Arians! I hate to say it (because I believe that he is from Pgh) but our special teams coach has to be fired. If Tomlin can learn from this experience (though I'm not sure who his mentor is) he can recover and possibly become a better head coach. But you don't learn by NOT making changes and just hoping things will get better. The Steelers (especially Tomlin) preaches accountability...time to practice what you preach. Right on Eric! There has to be consequences for this season. In the NFL, that means coaches’ heads roll. Please start with Arians! I hate to say it (because I believe that he is from Pgh) but our special teams coach has to be fired. If Tomlin can learn from this experience (though I’m not sure who his mentor is) he can recover and possibly become a better head coach. But you don’t learn by NOT making changes and just hoping things will get better. The Steelers (especially Tomlin) preaches accountability…time to practice what you preach.

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